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DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

At a glance

DeepSeek's October 2026 checkpoint of the V4.1 Flash workhorse, refreshed for stronger agentic coding with shorter, faster answers.

1.0M ctx$0.15/$0.60 per M

Alibaba's updated Qwen3.8 Max flagship snapshot, post-trained for coding and agentic work.

1M ctx$2.00/$6.00 per M
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Reasoning
CodingInsufficient data
AgenticInsufficient data
ReasoningInsufficient data
MathInsufficient data
Sources:OpenRouter
Cheaper91%
Reasoning & Knowledge
Graduate Science—Factual Recall—
Math
Competition Math—
Reasoning
CodingInsufficient data
AgenticInsufficient data
Sources:Epoch AI·OpenRouter· as of 2026-10-02
Reasoning & Knowledge
Graduate Science92.3%Factual Recall47.3%
Math
Competition Math100.0%
Specs
1.0M
Context
256K
Max output
Oct 2026
Released
1M
Context
131K
Max output
Sep 2026
Released
Capabilities
Vision
Audio
Reasoning
Vision
Audio
Reasoning
Pricing
Live pricing, shown before you run
Input93%$0.15/M tokens
Output90%$0.60/M tokens
Cache read99%$0.003/M tokens
Live pricing, shown before you run
Input$2.00/M tokens
Output$6.00/M tokens
Cache read$0.25/M tokens
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Frequently Asked Questions: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)▼

Which is better, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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Both DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) are capable AI models. The best choice depends on your specific use case: consider pricing, context window, speed, and which capabilities (vision, reasoning, audio) you need.

Which is cheaper, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has a lower blended cost. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: $0.15 input / $0.60 output. Qwen3.8 Max (0902): $2.00 input / $6.00 output.

Which has a larger context window, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has a larger context window: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 supports 1M tokens vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902) at 1M tokens.

Do both DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) support vision?

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Yes, both DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) support vision/image input.

What are the key differences between DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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Key differences: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 is significantly cheaper. Compare full specs on this page.

Which model should I choose for my use case?

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If cost is your priority, choose the cheaper option. If you need the highest intelligence for complex tasks, pick the higher-scoring model. For long documents or codebases, choose the larger context window. You can try both DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) for free on idapt.app to see which performs better for your specific needs.

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