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Llama 3.1 405B vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

At a glance

Meta's largest open-weight model at 405B parameters.

63131K ctx#66/92

Alibaba's updated Qwen3.8 Max flagship snapshot, post-trained for coding and agentic work.

1M ctx$2.00/$6.00 per M
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CodingInsufficient data
AgenticInsufficient data
Sources:Epoch ECI·Epoch AI· as of 2026-07-10
Capability
CapabilityECI62.7
Reasoning & Knowledge
Graduate Science50.9%
Math
Math Problems49.8%Competition Math9.7%
Reasoning
CodingInsufficient data
AgenticInsufficient data
ReasoningInsufficient data
MathInsufficient data
Sources:OpenRouter
Capability
Capability—
Reasoning & Knowledge
Graduate Science—
Math
Math Problems—Competition Math—
Specs
131K
Context
16K
Max output
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Released
1M
Context
131K
Max output
Sep 2026
Released
Capabilities
Vision
Audio
Reasoning
Vision
Audio
Reasoning
Pricing
Pricing not available
Live pricing, shown before you run
Input$2.00/M tokens
Output$6.00/M tokens
Cache read$0.25/M tokens
Cache write$2.50/M tokens
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Frequently Asked Questions: Llama 3.1 405B vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)▼

Which is better, Llama 3.1 405B or Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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Both Llama 3.1 405B and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) are capable AI models. The best choice depends on your specific use case: consider pricing, context window, speed, and which capabilities (vision, reasoning, audio) you need.

Which has a larger context window, Llama 3.1 405B or Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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Qwen3.8 Max (0902) has a larger context window: Llama 3.1 405B supports 131K tokens vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902) at 1M tokens.

Do both Llama 3.1 405B and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) support vision?

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Qwen3.8 Max (0902) supports vision/image input, but Llama 3.1 405B does not.

What are the key differences between Llama 3.1 405B and Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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Key differences: only Qwen3.8 Max (0902) supports vision input; only Qwen3.8 Max (0902) offers extended reasoning mode. Compare full specs on this page.

Which model should I choose for my use case?

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If cost is your priority, choose the cheaper option. If you need the highest intelligence for complex tasks, pick the higher-scoring model. For long documents or codebases, choose the larger context window. You can try both Llama 3.1 405B and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) for free on idapt.app to see which performs better for your specific needs.

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