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Phi 4 Reasoning vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

At a glance

Microsoft's 14B open reasoning model that rivals much larger models.

33K ctx

Alibaba's updated Qwen3.8 Max flagship snapshot, post-trained for coding and agentic work.

1M ctx$2.00/$6.00 per M
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Benchmarks
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Reasoning
CodingInsufficient data
AgenticInsufficient data
Sources:Epoch AI· as of 2026-10-02
Reasoning & Knowledge
Graduate Science56.1%Factual Recall—
Math
Math Problems64.9%Competition Math13.8%
Reasoning
CodingInsufficient data
AgenticInsufficient data
Sources:Epoch AI·OpenRouter· as of 2026-10-02
Reasoning & Knowledge
Graduate Science65%92.3%Factual Recall47.3%
Math
Math Problems—Competition Math627%100.0%
Specs
33K
Context
8K
Max output
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Released
1M
Context
131K
Max output
Sep 2026
Released
Capabilities
Vision
Audio
Reasoning
Vision
Audio
Reasoning
Pricing
Pricing not available
Live pricing, shown before you run
Input$2.00/M tokens
Output$6.00/M tokens
Cache read$0.25/M tokens
Cache write$2.50/M tokens
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Frequently Asked Questions: Phi 4 Reasoning vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)▼

Which is better, Phi 4 Reasoning or Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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Both Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) are capable AI models. The best choice depends on your specific use case: consider pricing, context window, speed, and which capabilities (vision, reasoning, audio) you need.

Which has a larger context window, Phi 4 Reasoning or Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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Qwen3.8 Max (0902) has a larger context window: Phi 4 Reasoning supports 33K tokens vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902) at 1M tokens.

Do both Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) support vision?

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Qwen3.8 Max (0902) supports vision/image input, but Phi 4 Reasoning does not.

What are the key differences between Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

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Key differences: only Qwen3.8 Max (0902) supports vision input. Compare full specs on this page.

Which model should I choose for my use case?

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If cost is your priority, choose the cheaper option. If you need the highest intelligence for complex tasks, pick the higher-scoring model. For long documents or codebases, choose the larger context window. You can try both Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) for free on idapt.app to see which performs better for your specific needs.

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