NousResearch's efficient 70B reasoning model based on Llama 4.
Alibaba's updated Qwen3.8 Max flagship snapshot, post-trained for coding and agentic work.
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Both Hermes 4 70B and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) are capable AI models. The best choice depends on your specific use case: consider pricing, context window, speed, and which capabilities (vision, reasoning, audio) you need.
Hermes 4 70B has a lower blended cost. Hermes 4 70B: $0.13 input / $0.40 output. Qwen3.8 Max (0902): $2.00 input / $6.00 output.
Qwen3.8 Max (0902) has a larger context window: Hermes 4 70B supports 131K tokens vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902) at 1M tokens.
Qwen3.8 Max (0902) supports vision/image input, but Hermes 4 70B does not.
Key differences: Hermes 4 70B is significantly cheaper; only Qwen3.8 Max (0902) supports vision input. Compare full specs on this page.
If cost is your priority, choose the cheaper option. If you need the highest intelligence for complex tasks, pick the higher-scoring model. For long documents or codebases, choose the larger context window. You can try both Hermes 4 70B and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) for free on idapt.app to see which performs better for your specific needs.